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spoiler for V for vendetta

Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:07:09 PM #21924 Perm Link

i agree with aron on this one so for any who havent seen it be aware this tells about the movie (probably indepth)..........................................................................................................................................

so now how should we start this off oh yes... the dictatorship in the movie very good in poortrail and i belive quite possable in a few years for some country's

"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. "

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Re: spoiler for V for vendetta

Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:50:17 PM #21942 Perm Link

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I'm surprised they went with Britain to portay the movie.

The reason is that it is 'in' to hate on America while Britain has some pretty messed up policies... I fully believe that this situation may occur in Britain's future.

For example, the constant surveillance. In America, we enjoy our right to privacy (and we better fight when it is violated). In Britain, there are cameras everywhere and they can even ticket you for speeding and running red lights without police being present. This is the first step.

The movie did blend in many conspiracy items as well. I'll leave others to continue the discussion.

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Re[2]: spoiler for V for vendetta

Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:55:44 PM #21947 Perm Link

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my favorite thing in the whole movie was mr. creety's fingermen and blackbagmen.... what people dont relize is that shit does happen to people if u poke around in the wrong bush something can come out and bit u.

"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. "

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:30:46 AM #21964 Perm Link

I was also suprised that they used England. I agree that something like that could in fact happpen. People are generally stupid and easily manipulated. I was really impressed with the role that the media played. People don't realize it, but I'm sure that what the media releases is heavily distorted.

"I knew it. I'm surrounded by a$$holes!"

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:14:49 AM #21965 Perm Link

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But currently, I don't think that it is screwed with the government in mind. The movie does portay what role the media can play, though.

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Re[2]: spoiler for V for vendetta

Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:15:58 AM #21966 Perm Link

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Said By Aron Schatz
For example, the constant surveillance. In America, we enjoy our right to privacy (and we better fight when it is violated). In Britain, there are cameras everywhere and they can even ticket you for speeding and running red lights without police being present. This is the first step.

that is already going on here in the US in some states.
My Cousin lives in California. He got a letter in the mail with a picture of his car running a red light and a ticket. It was from a camera mounted above an intersection.

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:17:45 AM #21967 Perm Link

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I hope that people are pushing for that to become illegal in Cali...

It is currently illegal to do that in NJ.

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:02:13 AM #21968 Perm Link

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well if its up there the someime it's bound to try to come out down here in the old GA.....if and whe it does i will be fighting the hell out of it... i mean what the bloody hell would we have need for cops then really??............

the tv thing in the movie were he broadcasted his message i have lwas thought e n the U.S. had something like that.

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:16:28 AM #21969 Perm Link

They may have used Britain but the movie clearly drew parallels to the current-day state and situations in America. So whether the situation was in Europe or not the movie makers adapted the story to fit with America.

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:18:13 AM #21970 Perm Link

If the people there let the government get away with it, then it's thier fault. Hell with 'em.

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:18:21 AM #21971 Perm Link

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They used the current problems in America to raise Britain to a higher level and Britain basically casted all other countries off. That's what it seems...

You really couldn't tell because even the movie was full of propaganda. The BTN would be consistantly reporting on how America sucks and how the entire world has problems and that Britain is awesome...

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:39:39 AM #21973 Perm Link

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what they did with the BTN was a lower form of brain washing really...

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Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:44:09 PM #22011 Perm Link

It took place in Britain because Alan Moore wrote the graphic novel about Britain because he lived there. Kinda like 1984, it was a reaction to what the author saw in politics, he wrote it during Margerat Thatcher's time as PM, which if you didn't know she was so Conservative she made Ronald Reagan say "Holy shit she's conservative!".

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Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:05:14 PM #22423 Perm Link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/5297600.stm

I thought instantly about this movie.

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Re[3]: spoiler for V for vendetta

Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:49:06 PM #22743 Perm Link

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Said By legato
my favorite thing in the whole movie was mr. creety's fingermen and blackbagmen.... what people dont relize is that shit does happen to people if u poke around in the wrong bush something can come out and bit u.

I have seen this movie soo many times. I agree that is the coolest part.
I love that theme of a movie with the goverment take overs and the people fighting back, very boss

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Re[2]: spoiler for V for vendetta

Sun Sep 3, 2006 6:40:17 PM #23166 Perm Link

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Said By Aron Schatz
For example, the constant surveillance. In America, we enjoy our right to privacy (and we better fight when it is violated). In Britain, there are cameras everywhere and they can even ticket you for speeding and running red lights without police being present. This is the first step.

I agree, cameras, microchips, credit cards, gift point cards, surveys, all that stuff is their way to keep track of citizens, know what they're doing, where they are, etc. It's subtle, but it's starting to sneak it's way in... V strongly pointed it out.

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Tue Sep 5, 2006 5:43:18 PM #23311 Perm Link

To Me this movie represents a not to far future, we are already becoming (are) slaves to technology and Government monitoring. GPS tracking via Cell Phones, Car antitheft Lojack/On star systems, If you own an EZ Pass they know every time You pass a toll, Government and companies tracking our internet usage, credit card purchasing� and so on. I feel my freedom is being striped away as technology progresses and time passes. When that happens I will be know as B

B for Bendetta...LOL I like the sound of that.

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Tue Sep 5, 2006 6:55:34 PM #23318 Perm Link

This was like a 1984 for dummies movie.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed it, but it was presented in such a way that nothing is going to happen because of it.

People are just going to do the menial things like "Oh hey, look it's a dictatorship where everything sucks, let's not let that happen."

However, when it comes down to it, is anything changing? Is anyone doing anything to prevent this? It's easy to look at Britain and see it, because we're not in the situation. Imagine what the British and Canadians are saying about US.

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Tue Sep 5, 2006 7:00:51 PM #23319 Perm Link

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Imagine what Americans are saying about the US... like myself.

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Tue Sep 5, 2006 7:18:25 PM #23320 Perm Link

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Imagine what Americans are saying about the US... like myself.

The thing is, they didn't spell it out strongly enough. Christian. Fundies. Are. Going. To. Fuck. Us. All. Over. And. Wipe. Non conformists. And. Homosexuals. Off. The. Earth!!!!

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Mon Oct 9, 2006 8:50:48 PM #25247 Perm Link

Finally bought the 1 disc DVD tonight brand new for $10 on sale, will rewatch it tonight. Hugo Weaving as V was awesome.

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Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:20:50 PM #25388 Perm Link

I loved the part when V made that lady think she was captured and being tortured by her government, and then the story about the lesbian, that's my most favourite part

What are we but caged birds?

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Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:25:00 PM #25399 Perm Link

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I know! When I found out it was Hugo Weaving (Elrond from LotR and Mr. Smith from the Matrix) I was beyond words.

After watching V for Vendetta three times and as many fan videos as I could lay my hands on I went out and rented The Fellowship of the Ring just so I could hear Hugo's voice some more because that is the kind of pathetic little person I am. Huge Grin

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Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:22:39 PM #25561 Perm Link

Spoiler:

The fact V never revealed his face was pretty cool for the character and the film. "What does he look like?" Natalie Portman's character wonders. But V answers it well enough himself, something like "I'm more than the face beneath this mask and the bones beneath my face" or something similar, I forget the exact words. For a film not to reveal the main character's face or eyes, like say Batman, Spider-Man or any other masked hero film, I was impressed, as it really drives V's point home: 'Look past the surface, there waits the truth.'

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