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Ravin Heartwilling

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movie plots we see over...and over..and over...

Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:24:16 AM #10972 Perm Link

i get real sick and tired of seeing a movie that looks really good, then i notice it follows another plot from another movie. then this goes on and im like, hey this looks like a good movie, then another knock off. hence, we have had many bad squels and such. movies that keep returning when they need to go and die. like the new more, finding neverland. how many movies has there been following the same damn peter pan plot?

get some new material movie producers. jesus, you guys even made movies that dont need to come back into sqeuls.

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Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:20:56 AM #10984 Perm Link

Dude, I would agree with you if you actually had a point, but you make the worst example in existance.

YEAH I MEAN THERE ARE SO MANY PETER PAN MOVIEZ OUT THERE WOAH.

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Re: movie plots we see over...and over..and over...

Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:45:59 AM #10985 Perm Link

In response to Ravin Heartwilling #10972

one reason for this (other than the fact mainstream hollywood has been out of new ideas for years) is that the big studios are not willing to take chances. they only produce what they know will sell. with the cost of making a big movie these days, i can understand why, but it still sucks.

one trend i personally hate is this whole prequel thing. nothing is more boring than watching a movie with characters that you already know the future of. case in point, star wars....3 movies dedicated to some bowl-headed kid that becomes darth vader? gimme a break. IMO they should of started with episode III's plot, and then made some cool star wars flicks with darth vader kicking all kinds of ass. who cares about pod racing and all that shit. "Yippee! That's wizard, annie!" lucas makes me want to kill myself....

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Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:50:06 AM #10995 Perm Link

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Why waste time on movies? I could see a whole television series on Darth Vader running around and kicking some serious resistance butt (there can't be a rebellion until you get rid of the resistance).

As for original plots, you don't really see them much, as anything can be likened back to something that's at least 100 years old. Most people would go back to Shakespear, Greak mythos and the Bible, but, in truth, the human psyche doesn't get a good prodding until Poe started to delve into it. Conspiracy theories, Human Psyche, People versus Nature...it's all been around, already. The real problem is when the same basic 5 outlines are used EVERY SINGLE YEAR. It reminds me how there are only three plots to Star Trek movies (which someone else mentioned, I think, on this board, like, two years ago), but I can still watch Denny Crane in a red suit.

If Any-time-of-year "Blockbuster" Movies are very annoying, do what anyone else who likes good movies would do: Sign up on Net Flicks and get some of the decent stuff that goes to Sundance or Cannes. Even better, pick up the foreign stuff! My God Man! Look around! You want scifi, go to Germany; need horror, go to Japan; like family-based plots, go to Italy. Need a good comedy, go to India. If you want romance, go to Brazil. If you wan really passionate romance with FLAT OUT [expletive deleted]IN', go to Spain.

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Re[2]: movie plots we see over...and over..and over...

Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:34:50 PM #14851 Perm Link

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one reason for this (other than the fact mainstream hollywood has been out of new ideas for years) is that the big studios are not willing to take chances. they only produce what they know will sell. with the cost of making a big movie these days, i can understand why, but it still sucks.

one trend i personally hate is this whole prequel thing. nothing is more boring than watching a movie with characters that you already know the future of. case in point, star wars....3 movies dedicated to some bowl-headed kid that becomes darth vader? gimme a break. IMO they should of started with episode III's plot, and then made some cool star wars flicks with darth vader kicking all kinds of ass. who cares about pod racing and all that shit. "Yippee! That's wizard, annie!" lucas makes me want to kill myself....

Good laugh. Good points made. I have to agree with the Star Wars prequel thing. When I first heard Star Wars "Prequels", I figured they'd have to use younger actors to play the roles of Luke, Leia, Han, etc, but not even that was done. "Darth Vader kicking all kinds of ass" would've rocked. All we got was him breaking out of some arm bolts and yelling, "Nooooo!" Then looking at the Death Star for 2 seconds. There was so much potential with the characters already there. Oh well. At least Darth Maul kicked ass.

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Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:49:16 PM #14857 Perm Link

Shakespeare was said to re-do plots, too. Look at his works.

That's just one example, though. Shakespeare took old common stories, and made them into works of art - more for entertainment than morale. What I'm saying is that, just because movies have similar plotlines doesn't mean that they can't be their own unique works of art. Of course, I don't see many modern Shakespeares that make movies. Huge Grin

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Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:22:26 PM #14875 Perm Link

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Most of the movies/plays/etc based off of shakespeare's stuff rocks too. Look at "My Fair Lady", "The Lion King", "Star Wars", "Saving Private Ryan" etc.

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Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:33:16 PM #14876 Perm Link

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My Fair Lady was a great play off of Pygmalion. The Lion King - Macbeth. Disney did that very well. The rest I've really never thought about.

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Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:09:35 AM #14878 Perm Link

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Well I just made that stuff up. Razz

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I just remembered though, there was an episode of Jimmy Neutron where the kid's school play was Macbeth, set in space. Razz

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Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:24:19 AM #14880 Perm Link

In response to Thefremen #14878

Years ago, one of my literature teachers said, "Every story you've read has been repeated in one way or another over the years. Similar themes are impossible to avoid repeating," something like that.

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Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:31:24 AM #14882 Perm Link

It's true. Humanity has been around for a while and, no matter what, there will be some sort of similarity.

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Re: movie plots we see over...and over..and over...

Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:56:07 PM #14908 Perm Link

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MR .GARRISON
Every idea's been done, Butters, even
before the Simpsons.

CHEF
Yeah. In fact, that episode was a rip-off
of a Twilight Zone episode.

BUTTERS
Really? So I shouldn't care if I come
up with an idea, and the Simpsons already
did it. It... uh...doesn't... matter.
Everything is back to normal, a, I
think... I think I can go back to tryin'
to destroy the world again.

CHEF
Good for you!

CARTMAN
Yeah, that's great Butters. Now get
the hell out of my room.

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Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:03:14 PM #14909 Perm Link

Oh, really?

I vaguely remember that episode.

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Re[2]: movie plots we see over...and over..and over...

Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:47:14 PM #14924 Perm Link

In response to Nihilistic Mystic #14908

South Park covers a lot of topics, so they'd know. Good post, I didn't see that one.

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Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:55:36 PM #14929 Perm Link

In response to FroogleDoop #14857

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What I'm saying is that, just because movies have similar plotlines doesn't mean that they can't be their own unique works of art.

Tell that to Roger Moore. "In this movie, Roger Moore sleeps with women. In this movie, Roger Moore sleeps with Women in a steam room. In this movie, Roger Moore sleeps with women in a car, then a train, and finally a boat. In this movie, Roger Moore sleeps with women in space. In this movie Roger Moore sleeps with women at a..."

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Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:56:22 PM #14937 Perm Link

In response to Tornado #14929

Just because the same actor frequents in doing the same thing in movies doesn't make the movie the same. If that were so, no movies would be different.

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Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:08:58 PM #14940 Perm Link

That works to most actors, but not Roger Moore. Theres a saying I once heard: "The movie's plot never changes, just the name Roger Moore is called in the movie."

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Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:50:50 AM #14942 Perm Link

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That's what you heard. I have yet to hear something that you think. Just because someone says it, doesn't mean it's right.

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Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:01:37 PM #14961 Perm Link

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That's what you heard. I have yet to hear something that you think. Just because someone says it, doesn't mean it's right.

I have seen quite a few movies with him as the starring role, and I have to say that saying doesn't seem too far from the truth (even barring Bond movies). On the flipside though, I do realize that just because I think it doesn't mean it's true aswell, as you may have a differing opinion.

Michael: Jodie, how's my schedule look for today?
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Re[2]: movie plots we see over...and over..and over...

Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:48:51 PM #14965 Perm Link

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Haha. That was a good episode.

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Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:58:15 PM #14972 Perm Link

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Said By FroogleDoop
That's what you heard. I have yet to hear something that you think. Just because someone says it, doesn't mean it's right.

I have seen quite a few movies with him as the starring role, and I have to say that saying doesn't seem too far from the truth (even barring Bond movies). On the flipside though, I do realize that just because I think it doesn't mean it's true aswell, as you may have a differing opinion.

Truthfully, I wasn't being specific to the actor, because I'm not sure I've seen any of his movies. I was just saying.

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